Seriously, NINE years. A company has to be authorized to sell Sentricon? They could be a good company with a misinformed salesman, but that just sounds to me like he is trying to pull a fast one on you. Also I apologize for all the typos, my phone was acting up as I was typing the message. I would appreciate honest advice since I hope its apparent that Ive spent a lot of time and thought on this. Its breakthrough molecular technology allows for half the water, 50% shallower treatment depths, 33% fewer drill holes, and 77% smaller trenches. Research shows, applying Termidor SE pre-construction and post-construction prevent pests. Had no sign once so ever that I had an issue. The products are only as good as the technicians who are applying them. It tackles a few issues which comes with Termidor SC. I recently sold a Termidor treatment on a house that had active termite tubes on almost every joist, the company I was bidding against was going to do a bait only with NO spot treatment..This customer asked me if I could do baits too.I told her that I could not in good conscious do baits on a home with that much activity..Two hours later I was checking another home with no activity, I recommended baits as a prevention. Should I tent the house? Has strong trophollaxis effect and is very effective. Wouldnt you at some point have to pay to re-treat the entire house again? 23.4 hPa ( 20 C) Information applies to the solvent. Altriset is colorless, odorless and tasteless and works on a transfer effect through grooming and feeding. Thats a savings I like, and I dont have to worry about termites finding some sticks in the ground. He wont come up with anything. My 94 year old father lives in FL in a termite infested home which was built on a slab. Who owns the bait stations after a contract is terminated/expired/over? It is common in homes that have had chemical treatments performed to find thousands of dead termites in walls where the termites were trapped and could not get out and simply died due to lack of moisture. While orange oil fails to eliminate colonies and prevent reinfestation, Altriset is a highly effective termite control treatment. As far as The 2 major companys you keep talking about, they are like dirty used car salesmans. While the Oster T Finisher specializes with its precision, the Andis T Outliner specializes by providing pure power. Of course in more complex termite infestations, the services of a professional should be obtained. I always see basements with a few cinderblocks that are darker due to moisture penetration or even crusty from water pushing salts in the concrete through. Research shows, applying Termidor SE pre-construction and post-construction prevent pests. Are they attracted to the warmth of the surface during the summer months and, if so, what makes that more attractive than the warmth of your home? ALL! It is non-toxic for humans, pets, or other insects, and has a long-term effect. They apply Termidor or Premise to the affected area. Neither will leech as both are cationic molecules (positively-charged) and the soil has a net negative charge on the exchange sites. I have years of research and thousands of treatments to prove it. How long does Termidor last? It will help to make you a better pest management professional. With the help of ATP the active ingredient has more movement horizontally and vertically compared to Termidor SC. Although it is possible to get all of the ground/dirt under the house. And please dont say to just go without where we live thats just not an option. Terminix is charging $1,080 for the Termidor treatment, with a $225 annual maintenance fee. WebTermidor carries a CAUTION on the pesticide label in USA and is highly active against a variety of non-target animals such as bees and fish. Arnaldo. Also cases where termites have come through cracks in the floor of the basement directly into studs. The only way to deal with you wanting a cheaper price is cut the rate. Excludes Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, and all other U.S. territories. I am looking at paying about $50 dollars more by using the Sentricon treatment from Company B and feel that I will be getting the protection that I need for the active termites that were found in the crawl spaces of my home. You should do the same with your home protection as it will appreciate rather than depreciate as automobiles do. Sentricon and Termidor are both about 99% effective. Company A has said it is not a neurotoxin, and is totally safe for animals and people just like Frontline. And their training is world class. I live in Missouri in the country. I live in a raised ranch in NY and have found termites in my basement. How can I as a home owner tell if the pest control company is realy using termidor or water down or counterfit when they come to aply. But if you want the problem solved quickly and not have to worry for 10-15 years do Termidor exterior plus treatment. However, both are solid companies with good reputations. It is not topical. The ratio of damage claims vs the number of sentricon customers is extremely low. Thanks. Should the treatment be done before or after the digging? If you arent a member, Jim, you should be. The Altriset is a very effective termiticide treatment. Perform reference checks of other customers they have services. It works by paralyzing the muscles of the termites. Prices are comparable for the initial treatment/installation. Price for the Sentricon should be about $700 $1,000 for installation and 1 year of monitoring. I thought about going with a bait system, but there seems to be controversy over it, whereas there really doesnt seem to be too much controversy with the Termidor. Maybe I am missing some information? Amazing, isnt it? Dow refuses to release their research and efficacy statistics to the public. I know this because I worked for them for a while after college. Its active ingredient is Fipronil usually found in pet products to control flea. I have had Sentricon for 4 years, and have been thinking of going with another company that uses Termidor. (949) 631-7348. Any help would be appreciated. The result is 100% control in 3 months or less. 66 of 69 people found this answer helpful. Do you have large tiled areas which you want to maintain intact? Then Terminix did an inspection, they want to charge me 1,800 and they have only the option of Termidor, the guy saw a little whole, the size of the tip of a pen and he said that it was from active termites, then I found another company: All safe pest and termite, which is BBB accredited and is part of the National Pest Management Association They came to the house, we showed the technician the little whole and he said that it was not from active termites they charge $600 they use sentricon and spot treatment with termidor if they see any active termites, they also mentioned that they have infrared camaras to see if damaged has been created by termites, do these cameras really work? Use "Spacebar" or "Enter" to expand the My Account navigation menu. I just looked back wondering where I bad-mouthed any company, and found none. I like the fact that the active ingredient in Sentricon is a chiton inhibitor whereas Termidor uses a nerve agent. They monitor stations every 3 months. You had no say in it. Both methods are about 99.5% effective. Altriset can be used for pest control prior and post construction of residential, industrial and commercial structures. Was, is Termidor still effective now in 2012, and did this pest company sell me something I did not need? The termite thinks they are from the same colony since they are close. Some companies will only carry a guarantee for so many years and then you must re-treat or drop the guarantee. I witnessed how Orkin trained salesmen to work the obituaries and how to drive through neighborhoods looking for yard ornaments common to the elderly (targeting elderly ).I worked at 2 Terminix branches , both were great when they were local owned franchises but once Service Master took over it got really bad . Local/spot treatments are performed by drilling and injecting Altriset directly into infested wood members. which is why I was at so many branches. How can you tell how safe a product is to use? WebTermidor is not systemic and does not affect plant life around your home. I bought a house last year, the house was previously treated for termites 5 years ago, in the inspector said that there were no active termites at the moment I bought the house. It sounds to me like you either work for Dow or some shady company who RIPS PEOPLE OFF BY DOING BAIT ONLY TERMITE TREATMENTS. How do they find the Termidor? Where other chemical barriers will weaken in a matter of months, Altriset will continue to protect your home from termites. I am in an internet chat room with pest companies all over the world and almost all the Advance users are backing off now, because they have been burnt by numerous jobs where they lost money because of large underground infestations. Firstline is a stomach poison, it can reduce the colony size , but not eliminate. I am very well aware. Everything I have read on here makes me lean towards Termidor. Thanks. TB I agree with you. As a homeowner with current termite issues, I have repeatedly been told to use Sentricon if you have active termites and Termidor for use before you see termite activity. Reading the comments from several years ago, I thought I was given incorrect information Sentricon system altogether! Ron- Please go back to working on cars or waiting tables or whatever it is you do for a living and leave the expertise on termites and other insects to the professionals. I wouldnt buy from eBay. We would probably be around $1,000 + $100 renewal for Termidor. Ron, it is people like you who give our industry a bad name. To you homeowners: Dont trust anyone that tries to sell you one of these systems. there is nothing better than Termidor for Termites! I have had one company bid using termidor for $750 for treating about 225 linear ft around whole house with $100 for reinspect & warranaty. Bi-annual termite inspections have not seen any indication of ground termite activities. If your home was treated with Termidor 5 years ago it should be fine for about 10 more years at least. It might take months or years to locate, and that means LOTS of wall studs destroyed, bands gone, sill plates gone, and a homeowner with $30K in repairs. Company A is recommending spot treatments with termador only to the areas where termites and termite damage was previously found. We have been living in a house for 20 years that was built in 1955 on a concrete slab. I have more often than not seen it take 3 5 years to get the first hit.During that time the termites are still eating your home.. (Builder foreclosure). They are not recommending treatment around the entire house. I would say those two lead their competitors (Sentricon for bait and Termidor for liquid barriars). Ron could you please post the link about Do Nan Yao Su saying that Sentricon is only 20% effective against subterranean termites? My pest control company is supposed to go this weekend. They serve different purposes. No liquid pesticide at all. The amount of foaming agent depends on the hardness of the water, so experiment to find that perfect ratio to get a shaving cream consistency foam. If your termite company does not do this then you need to find another company. So, the barrier created stays effective longer. The Sentricon System is the only termite control product ever to earn the Presidential Green Chemistry Challenge Award, a top federal environmental honor. Anthony there are several excellent baits you can buy online and install yourself. As Termidor HE can be injected at greater distance between drill holes, in tiled and concreted areas these can be placed in more aesthetically pleasing positions. The cost to stick some plastic tubes in the ground seems outrageous. The quotes are: $900 from Home Team Pest Defender, $1500 from Terminix, and $1710 from Atlantic Pest Management. Ive decided to use a bait system. Ants love to get in those systems, and once there, termites will never enter them again. Regardless of construction type, reduced application volume provides time savings in all treatments. The world is getting greener all the time and Sentricon is a product that works great and does not involve injecting a hundred gallons of pesticide into the environment. They dont work period. Less water is needed for Termidor HE when mixed so it is a water saving alternative to Termidor SC. Termidor is very effective against termites as well as other pests such as ants and bugs. Termites will detect the ants pheremones and NEVER enter that bait tube again. That means the soil was never treated? Nicholas W Constantino , Sorry to hear that, you should not be seeing a swarm,,Was the swarm in your home? you name it, Ive used it. If you want a green treatment, you might consider spot treating the infested area with Altriset (a Dupont product), then installing Sentricon. Once the application gets covered with soil, there is no visible sign of treatment. Your attitude and display of self control has been way below where it should be (as the president of a business). The fact is that if termites are eating on a home are NOT going to leave to eat some nasty crap in a bait tube. Its the only product on the market that doesnt re-emulsify (mix with water ). The baits ( Sentricon, Advance, Firstline Ect.) I have done over 10,000 termite inspections and treatments in my career. You really think even they are selling knockoffs? It works by paralyzing the muscles of the termites. Im booked out 6-8 weeks all year. We also got an est for Sentricon HD always active from co A, and Sentricon Monitoring from co b. And as far as having hundreds of gallons of pesticide dumped around your home with a liquid treatment, not true. So now the decision is back to prevention now or wait until we find termites closer to the house. I have seen many jobs that take 30 40 bait tubes. "Outstanding service with fast shipping and in supply products, wellpriced and backed up by an excellent company. Just dont feel like it will be as effective for us as termidor. If you have termites eating on your home, dont let some slickster like him/her shine you out of your money. One of the latest termiticide products in the market, Altriset is aimed at offering effective termite control without affecting humans, pets or the environment in a negative way. You could have great success. Both are neo-nicotinal class insecticides, but Termidor is the more expensive of the two. This new technology has proven to move 2.5 times further in the soil than the industry standard. Advance has the potential to favor the pest company, instead of the consumer because with Sentricon, everything (stations, bait, support, etc) is included with the fee. It is safe for pets, plants and humans. This is fact. Sentricon is much more environmentally friendly. They just buy from the suppliers and mark it up 50% (or so). Anything to get out of paying. My personal technique is simple sentricon to eliminate the colony(s) from your property AND/ drill/liquid treat attached slabs, dirtfilled porches, or critical areas JUST IN CASE! ;-). Fipronil (Termidor) and Imadacloprid (Premise or generic version) will not repel termites. I have only used it on one job, so far. Call Toll Free 1-855-55-EPEST (37378) Dont bad-mouth products, but its OK to call a PhD entomologist a nut. You state, There is no evidence that termites are attracted to cellulose. That is like saying humans are not attracted to food. Termidor HE stands for "High Efficiency" because it is the most concentrated product the manufacturer has with this active ingredient, which is more convenience for Pest Control Professionals who may be treating dozens of homes each week. This compensation may impact how and where products appear on this site (including, for example, the order in which they appear). Altriset termiticide starts acting on the infestation soon after application on the infested areas. Use Down arrow key to expand the submenu and up/down arrow keys to navigate within the submenu. Every test done shows that within 90 days of treatment with Termidor there are no living termites within an acre of the center of the average size home!!!! Many pest companies use this technique in the winter time when their spray rigs are frozen up ! Also, I believe I have polypipe outside the house. You will never get that with a liquid. Because they are progressive and care about the environment. Using a repellent would seem stupid because it would just divert the termites to a part of the basement where we couldnt see them (if theyre not already there). I have read that the tubes get pheromones from active termites, which may ward off future colony workers. Im in Missouri, if that makes a difference. WebAltriset is a highly effective termite control product that stops the termites from feeding within hours of application. Also the cost to treat with Altriset is as high or higher than Termidor which is bullet proof . Too many companies have bait station of all brands out there full of rotten wood and mud..And baits can be the best choice for prevention, with a company that will maintain them properly.. I got 5 estaments, all the in same price range and prety much the same area treatment procedure. I dont know how much Sentricon costs the termite companies, but that cost is passed onto the customers obviously. If they are a member of the association, they probably have a good reputation and have been around awhile. Your home will be thoroughly inspected, youll find what options are available and youll learn a lot of valuable information. The new Sentricon (called Always Active) IS pre-baited. At $20 per tube, is your pest guy gonna spend the $800 it really takes to get rid of your termites? Nothing leaches out, and if it did, it wouldnt leach more than a few inches. Editorial Disclosure: This content is not provided or commissioned by the bank advertiser. Actually, Sentricon is a stand alone treatment. Today, we talk about this product in detail and look at its applications and effects to help you understand what you can expect from it. Every independent study done will back that up.Another thing is to company you choose!! The renewal fee is a little higher for Sentricon, but there are no holes drilled through the exterior stoops, patios + no liquid pesticides applied, so it is a case by case decision based on the preferences of the individual client. It is amazing they can find a 2 inch thick tomato steak. The thought was that the higher the pressure, the better the spray coverage. I want to be on the safe side and I just requested 3 free quotes: one with Orkin, they charge 1,100 and they use both baits and liquid treatment, they didnt see any active termites. What if a water line goes bad and needs to be replaced, or I get a new communications line, etc. This usually is not of an issue for you as a customer as it is only a matter of a few hours. They also installed and maintain Sentricon at the White House. We will request Termidor. Also, can someone provide more information about the toxicity of termidor. As someone pointed out earlier a LOT has to do with the company and the individuals who are treating your home, their experience, and their training. So, I decided I needed a 2nd opinion. "Imidachloprid" registered as Premise (United States) and Hachikusan (Japan), "Fipronyl" registered as Termidor and "Chlorfenapyr" registered as Phantom are examples of non-repellent chemicals. A new, low-toxic product for treating termites has just been approved for use in California. Oh, also I thought a termite was a termite. That is called the ESP system. Krista: As long as the well is 10 or more from the foundation, they can use the Backfill method and youll be fine. My current company can also do both. Termidor is very effective against termites as well as other pests such as ants and bugs. Someone asked earlier how the termites would forage out to the stations from under the basement floor. You have to use a liquid (like Termidor), or a liquid plus bait. The Sentricon system uses a metabolism inhibitor that kills 90% of the termites that feed on it. We found a swarm in the front room of our split level home (on the level which is below ground) and there is also evidence theyve eaten the drywall paper in the same area. I wouldnt be afraid to use it though. That is why wood was put in the Sentricon stations in the beginning, then replaced with the bait after they entered the stations. Insurance doesnt cover it, and home warranty doesnt cover it. Other company reps report equal success with bait vs. chemicals but they ARE slicker sales guys. It also increases termites natural social behavior. * Free Shipping is available to the continental United States only. Thanks. There are a few legal cases in the past where BASF has sued other companies for patent infringement related to the Fipronil market. Thank you! I work for Orkin, and in my area Orkin is the most thorough company with the best customer service. Why wouldnt everyone just treat with Termidor, and forget about termites until another 10-15 years? They said renewals in my area are $350. I just wonder if I need to really check them between December and February. Opinions? For $99/year, they would sell us a 10-year warranty with annual inspection. 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