lee enfield markings guide

DEN Denver Ordnance Plant (S.A.A.) I have just examined a couple of dozen standard military ShtLEs (MkIII and MkIII*) produced in the UK after 1910 (the year the MkVII round was introduced) in my collection. Welsh Regiment who died 30/04/1916 MERVILLE COMMUNAL CEMETERY France ' M.E.R. W.O. Australia: C12A1 7.62mm Target Rifle with optical sight DI Dominion Industries, Verdun Ltd. Greycaine Ltd. M.O.A. So there are certainly at least 2 meanings for the HV mark, those service rifles which were altered, and some specialist Target Rifles for example, which had ' strengthened ' High Velocity barrels. 2-groove bores are notorious for poor accuracy with boat tails. belt FT(A) Fleet Train (Aust.) small arms, edged weapons, MGs. R.S.A.F. Others: Enfield .45-70 Magazine 5 round RM57 Type a description for this product here. I read that BO would indicate early 1944. MAB Bathurst, NSW Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield Armour piercing incendiary All the British produced rifles examined above carried the date and broad arrow. Original. Ammunition The following ammunition can be used by the Lee-Enfield SMLE. Imperial Chemical Industries (S) Army Design Department (Aust.) MV 20 R.F.G.2 Left side of barrel reinforce are commercial proof markings applied by BSA, post-1916. C.D. VY/C Viliroy Learn more about Product Partnerships Limited - opens in a new window or tab, See terms for PayPal Credit - opens in a new window or tab, Original Yorkshire (Green Howards) Regiment Collar Badge (#255878405106), Original WW1 British Army 4x Blue Overseas Service Stripes Chevrons Badge (#255882637454). I don't know what the markings stand for, but if you sent those pics to the NRA they would identify them. W.& E. Weapons & Equipment Martini-Metford Rifle dailyinfo[9]=' 8045 Lance Corporal Henry George BARCLAY "D" Coy. S.R. Percussion small arm How to Use Classifieds - PLEASE READ FIRST ! R.L. He quotes Stratton's work several times in addition to Reynolds but he fails to have noticed that on p62 of Skip's book he stated : " the knox form is stamped with a host of markings, the most significant of which are the proof marks and year of manufacture.". R.N.D. L75toL80? M.M.C. dailyinfo[17]=' 79947 Sapper Andrew WATT 173rd Tunnelling Coy. General Order F.N. C.H. (Woolwich) KEY Keystone Ordnance Works No. Mine was stamped on the stock with the crown and "Lithgow 1942". When the number sequence reached 9999 the next letter assigned to the factory would be substituted in place of the former. It was published in 2007, available now from Aust., N.Z., US and UK distributors. A.I.D. Fiat The .303-cal. PLEASE have your smith check headspace before shooting- having primer fall out of pocket= ungood. L10 ? L3A2 .30 cal Browning M1919A4 (flexible). Interesting info on looking after C&R rifles, including wood restoration. Engineering Regulations Left side of barrel reinforce are commercial proof markings applied by BSA, post-1916. SJ/C St. John Breech loading For those out there that want to get deeper into the serial number issues I would suggest purchasing either Skip Strattons or Ian Skennertons books. Do you have additional info? L32A1 12ga Automatic loading FN Browning Riot Gun. Would make my Grandfather proud to make her a good shooter. competition. R.C. SOD Savanna Ordnance Depot as However it did not result in a change of the rifle mark designation, but altered rifles were marked HV on the barrel immediately behind the back sight. Gale & Polden, Bernards Publishers as well as L29A1 .22 Trainer There are five different models (called Marks) of oilers. Army Training Memorandum Rifled ordnance Headspace or bad ammo? Tank Corps who died 28/04/1918 MARISSEL FRENCH NATIONAL CEMETERY France ' C.E.A.D. BG/C Granby CR/C Cherrier Lee Metford information and pics. Occupied Countries during World War 2 Plant G.S. Birmingham Small Arms 1663'. 1, S.M.L.E Marks III & III* & No. Enfield-Stuff;http://web.archive.org/web/20120802024544/http://www.enfield-stuff.com/oilers/makers_marks/oiler_makers_England.htm . D.R.A.C. MK Mark Many of these titles were also available for private purchase. OA Ogden Arsenal The ShtLE means Short Rifle, Lee Enfield.. A forum community dedicated to all firearm owners and enthusiasts. L38 ? Aust service, AFV. Enfield #4 MK1 Stock Set LE4059 #4 MK1 Stock Set (stock & forend & 2 handguards). L.S. PA Picatinny Arsenal The new S/N matches the Knox form & receiver S/N. Seen in the picture above are the normal spots to find the serial number and manufacturers information on the No4 and the No5 rifle. A guide to the Lee Enfield .303 RIFLE No. and provision for fitting 50-rd. Selected pebble The bolt has a single mark on it (see picture, I can't tell what the mark is)but not a matching serial number so it must have been changed out at some point. FR Factory Obsolete for future manufacture D.C.I. are other related service establishment abbreviations from the 18th & early 19th Coast defence Army Order War Office G.C. L4A2 7.62mm Bren LMG conversion (X10E2) w/ lightened bipod, steel barrel. A.P. M.L.E. dailyinfo[11]=' 240030 Serjeant Joseph Sydney TOWSE Military Medal 1st/5th Bn. dailyinfo[1]=' Chaplain 4th Class The Rev. Mean time or Missed target I would be interested in knowing as well! THEY, TOGETHER, have helped me on my Enfield Rifle 1 Mark III* (made in 1917 under the by Birmingham Small Arms, Co. Belgian Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield Mk III rifle was fast to operate and up to the wretched conditions of the trenches. Defence Industries Ltd. C.E.S. UK, National Rifle Association; http://home.nra.org/#/home The NRAs main website. Here is that reference - which also quotes from E.G.B. L48A2 37mm Riot Gun, upgraded variant of L48A1. R. & E. Range & elevation ENFIELD 1916 SHT.L.E. dailyinfo[30]=' 35346 Private Stuart Bathurst Scott COATES 13th Bn. C No.7 Mk I .22 trainer Separate and distinct Lx S.A.E.D. belt. M.M. Footscray No. (cordite factory) L7A27.62mm Machine Gun, improved L7A1 with revised feed mechanism MS (gun ammo) Salisbury No. B.F.M. Such examples of items produced in the occupied var year=mydate.getYear() C.I.A. KNK Kankakee Ordnance Works P.L.H. Senior Weapons Engineer So here is a 1918 BSA with its original barrel and BSA inspection marks on both components, Here is a 1918 BSA with a WWII produced replacement barrel with an Enfield inspection marks (but BSA mark on receiver as per original rifle) this is the same rifle as shown above to demonstrate uneven serial stamping. So yes it is an acceptance mark (the arrow) and where the date on the barrel significantly post dates the date on the receiver it is indicative of rebarrelling, but it is the date of manufacture and acceptance of the barrel, not reissue of the rifle, in my view. Find the worth of your vintage Lee Enfield rifle. L14A1 84mm Carl Gustav Anti-Tank, in Australian service. monograms may also be found incorporated in various case headstamps, marked on Vickers Sons & Maxim Manufacturers will be noted either on the left side of the receiver or on the left side buttsocket. dailyinfo[13]=' Gefreiter Richard STROEBER 12./R.I.R.22 German Army who died 13/04/1918 ERQUINGHEM-LYS CHURCHYARD EXTENSION France ' Station Monograms are found marked on military transit cases and packaging as The gun has been sporterized. Go to. to new AFVs. For less than $25 USD you'll have answers to 98% of all the questions posted on most Enfield forums and gunboards. The barrel proof mark and the inspection marks look worn andmuch older, and are perhaps original to the 1915 manufacture, whereas the ' 40 ' date mark looks much clearer anddeeper struck, so my guess is that it was a much later additional mark stamped in 1940 when the rifle was probably refurbished and re-issued. The mark ' HV ' was also found on rifle barrels which had been strengthened to ' High Velocity ' standard. grenade and L9 SUSAT sight. facility at the Royal Armouries in Leeds is well under way. I really appreciate you taking the time to explain! GM General Motors V.A. Known Fact: originally built at Lithgow in 1943 or Refurbished at Lithgow in 1943, was used at some point by the Ministry of Defense. I am about to go off to access my secure storage so I will check both this and the HV mark and report back. B.T.C. NA/C Nanaimo L40A1 12.7mm Ranging Gun, used with Wombat anti-tank weapon. 5. Meccano sniper rifle. The simplest way to identify any particular (government contracted) Lee-Enfield up to the No1 MkVI is by its buttsocket markings. N.C. Nitro-cellulose I had a Sporter I got cheap and had a hard time getting any groups better than 5-6" @ 100 yds. 1 Their values are perhaps 50%, Magazine Lee-Metford Rifle L25A1 Rifle Instructional, training version of L1A1. A.M.R. MEP Maribyrnong, Vic. L85A1 5.56mm Individual Weapon (SA 80), British general issue A little knowledge, which is what I have, is dangerous and I don't have Skennerton's LE Rifle book so please feel free to correct my observations if they are incorrect. MSP Port Pirie, SA F.S. Ordnance Factory H.S. A.A. D.D.E. Although lighting is something of a challenge there I will attempt to take some illustrative pictures. A.R. CHK Chickasaw Ordnance Works I have the exact same markings on my Lee. (also Mildenhall Design Department Enfield Director, Royal Armoured Corps AFV service. This, plus the wording provided in Reynolds citing a LoC entry of July 6th 1911 LoC (quoted in Reynolds pp117-8 he does not provide the LoC number) "For Rifles of future manufacture (my emphasis) and conversion"..[describes sighting changes]then "Marking All rifles had the letters "H.V. "Killingholme" Royal Naval Air Service who died 27/04/1916 CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL United Kingdom ' Serial Numbers, Model, Mark and Manufacture Identification Over the years I have received many emails regarding serial numbers. Click here and we'll show you how to ID your oiler type in three steps. WVW West Virginia Ordnance Works, Abbreviations found D. of A. I have some comments about markings that are present or not present. Your Lee-Enfield oiler/oil bottle was made between 1888 and 1978. L12A1 .22 Conversion Kit by Heckler & Koch, for L1A1 rifle. What is the significance of the 1915 date stamp making us of a reverse letter 'L'? ADL South Australia for RN, also pistols, bayonets, MGs, SMGs HMGs, rocket launchers, &c.) will be going up to BM denotes 'Birmingham Military', proved to the same pressures as the military proof. Restoration Service) from Canada reports that he visited the Leeds site a few I had the bolt get locked down due to a primer falling out of the casing after the round fired. B.M. Several years ago, at a gun. 5 4 (T). (E) Design Department (Enfield), Some Australian ones too Of course, I uploaded them but I guess the forum only posted one photo. links Along with the manufacturers name both the date of manufacture and the type and mark of the rifle is also shown. WW1 British army issue . Surprising to see a Mk III* dated 1915, I wonder if it was originally a Mk III but was reclassified as a III* when going through a factory or field refurbishment. dailyinfo[27]=' Flight Sub-Lieutenant Andrew John BODDY H.M.S. Silenced version of L2A3 Sterling. Self-propelled XL77 37mm ARWEN. Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms; http://www.atf.gov/ . Royal Small Arms Repair XL73 5.56mm right hand Light Support Weapon XL69 4.85mm left hand Light Support Weapon 4 MK. Broadway TrustCo. ML/C Marleau M.G.O. L.V. These stampings will tell the observer: Rifles manufactured outside of a government contract for commercial sale will not have this type of marking on the buttsocket and most likely will only have the factorys name stamped in its place, such as BSA Co. in the Research CD. Infantry Training Manual mounts. Thanks for the reference. B.S.A. Keeping a village shop going, GWF is free to use so please support the Forum, http://gerardcox.blogspot.com/2013/12/decoding-1916-smle-mark-iii-by-bsa.html. 'Birnbeck' Somerset shore base M.L.O. "mpr" &c. Director of Weapons Production Can anyone help me identify what the other markings mean. Too bad that UK postal takes so long! well as on some of the ordnance and various service accessories. The mark ' HV ' was not a standard marking on WW1 rifles, but was reserved for those earlier manufactured rifles which had been altered to take the new higher velocity ammunition, here is the explanation :-, " As a result of the introduction of the Mk VII ammunition in 1910 changes were made to the sights of the rifle to accommodate the lighter pointed bullet and flatter trajectory. This updated and expanded edition also has a ready model identification chapter and colour plates. I am not challenging the idea that the barrel was replaced in 1940 as part of the bringing old rifles out of storage and war reserve which I fully accept. a crown. PE/C Petawawa English Steel Corporation Angels Lost and Found; http://www.milsurps.com/forumdisplay.php?f=48 . L99to L101? US, Markings on Lee Enfield rifles and equipment. service. A.D.D. 'C'-prefix Nomenclature Small Arms Inspectorate Dept. Bayonet Terminology; http://thearmouryonline.co.uk/Terminology.htm .. Not Lee Enfield specific but very useful. . MW (S.A.A.) Hispano-Suiza C2A1 7.62mm FAL heavy barrel, auto rifle C.I.A. A.C. Army circular High velocity Australian CAC Colonial Ammunition Company, Black powder abbreviations Regards TonyE 4thGordons Old Sweats 9k Reynold's book ' The Lee Enfield '. GBK Glenbrook, NSW And a little earlier in time If the page doesnt open right on Regiments etc then scroll down, its there. R.O.F. Welshpool No. Manufacturer's Monograms for ammunition production var day=mydate.getDay() Places that will have the serial information is on the bolt, receiver and normally the barrel. Nicholson & Watson printed many pams on small arms P. Pebble Armour piercing or After proof Army 's Defence Council Instructions Matching serial numbers is always a plus. The prime reference is 'List of Changes in British War Material', the monthly No apparent importer stamp, usually on the RHS of receiver; if in the U.S., must have been imported more than a few yrs ago ?? It shoots great. Butt removed, firing General service If you can post photos of the complete rifle, and of the LH side of the action and both sides of the Butt socket the information needed to answer your question will be there. Army Inspectorate Department V.S.M. It was his service rifle in the South African Defense Force. Bore Viewers images http://www.enfield-stuff.com/tools/bore_viewers/index.htm . D.O.F. are UK stations) TOC Tocumwal, NSW {B.S.A.Co. H.M.S.O. Remembered Today: For WW2 production, 'British MV Villawood, NSW C3 rifle7.62mm Parker Hale M82 Sniper Rifle in Canadian L52 9mm DP Sten Mk V Machine Carbine G.P. S.P. R.C.L. A.D.D. Vickers Armstrong, Crayford Classifieds for guns and parts. Can be used on Challenger AFV. R.G.F. L103 DP L85 (SA 80) S.A. Small arms or semi-automatic Browning K.F.K. Black powder (gunpowder) dailyinfo[18]=' J/71444 Ordinary Seaman John Dolby DIAPER H.M.S. The new Pattern Room I am not sure that this is entirely correct. . GDN Gladstone, SA Those with a number I bought an Australian Lithgow No1 MK3* lately and while I understand most of the markings, some mysteries still remain. ML Maribyrnong Munitions Supply Lab. RIA Rock Island Arsenal Further,I believe the mark was not just applied to converted rifles, but also newly produced ones (after 1910). R.M.L.O. Notes - Delivery *Estimated delivery dates include seller's dispatch time, origin postcode, destination postcode and time of acceptance, and will depend on the postage service selected and receipt of cleared payment. marking details Lee-Enfield SMLE SALW Guide 6 salw-guide.bicc.de. Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. M.E. I believe this distinction is repeated on a large number of my rifles. Short Lee-Enfield literature and reference books from the early 19th century. Magazine Lee-Enfield Government site useful for its rules and regulations about C&R rifles. AU Albury, NSW CTW Charters Towers, Qld. British No4 rifles were set up with a 5 digit serial number system with 1XXXX being allotted to Maltby, 2XXXX Fazakerley, 3XXXX BSA Shirley. D.G. DE/C Debert M.C.S. broken Ministry of Supply: Research department L12A1 9mm Blank Fire Attachment, Blank ammunition. JA Joilet Arsenal G.R B 1942 S (looks like two light strikes) LE III (& 7pt star) best pic of the additional markings above the serial # on the upper left (in the light glare) and above the last few digits of the serial # and here is a few pic of the barrel markings (on the left of the barrel) D.R.A. You know more about this than I do, so hopefully, we can make some sense of those markings. than other collectors. South African Infantry who died 12/04/1917 BROWNS COPSE CEMETERY, ROEUX France ' L4A67.62mm Bren LMG conversion, upgraded L4A1 w/ chrome barrel. SC/C Scarborough Recoilless XL70 5.56mm right hand Individual Weapon This rifle retained most of the overall design feature of the earlier model, including the 30 barrel length. D.I.L. O.C. SEY Seymour, Vic. IOP Iowa Ordnance Plant None the less I still believe the '40 is the barrel year of manufacture as it is to be found an all the standard British ShtLEs in my collection, many of which have not been rebuilt and the year matches the receiver. and Enfield produced some III* rifles in 1915. Basic Enfield Identification and the Facts about Serial Numbers Enfields at a Glance Here is a simple shadow board depicting the 4 most common Enfields. The volume of serial number inquiries has prompted me to fashion this page together and try and explain how best to identify a particular rifles manufacturer. Depots, United States: Cordite There is no BNP stamp on barrel near the Knox form. The dates being individually hand struck upon acceptance at the end of the production process and thus looking sharper and clearer. R.B.L. WRA Winchester Repeating Arms Delivery times may vary, especially during peak periods. K.H.K. RA Remington Arms (S.A.A.) My one problem with your theory regarding the re-issue date with the ' Broad Arrow ' stamped to the right, is that on Mully's barrel and the example shown in the attached reference, the barrel'sproof marks and the barrel inspection marks are all original barrel markings, and the only new stampings are the ' 40 ' and the ' Broad Arrow ', which to me indicates that is not a replacement barrel but rather the original barrel with the ' 40 ' mark and the ' Broad Arrow ' mark subsequently added to show the date the rifle was accepted back into Government service in 1940. A specific chapter in the new 'Lee-Enfield Rifles' update of the 1992 'Lee-Enfield Story' is devoted to Serial Numbers. C11 7.62mm Target Rifle Chief Inspector of Small Arms R.S.A.R.F. Royal Welsh Fusiliers who died 23/04/1918 WARLOY-BAILLON COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION France ' L43A1 7.62mm Machine Gun, variant of L7, used on the Scorpion as a R.A.O.C. Press Projector, infantry, anti-tank Royal Naval Depot Mobile Ammunition Repair Unit The bulk being from the Royal Ordinance factory Maltby, ROF Fazakerley, BSA Shirley, with smaller quantities at Longbranch in Toronto Canada and by the Stevens-Savage company of Chicopee Falls, Massachusetts, USA. All the manufacturers were present in the sample and several examples of all years except 1911 were examined. Schmidt & Bender scope. D.C.I.s Defence Council Instructions C-i-C Commander in Chief EFD Enfield R.S.A.F. V.A.C. Particularly, the 2nd Bn. I referred to ' strengthening ' in connection with certain types of rifles not SMLE Service Rifles. What we have here is failure- to communicate. On the left side it has a 42 on it. var fontend = '' MARU/C BO/C Bouchard A.T.I. Military Rifles.com; http://www.militaryrifles.com/Britain/Metford.htm . Land service 2000-2015 All Could be from S.African service. of Stores )* Rifle, Short Magazine Lee- L29A2 .22 Sportco Model 71S Trainer Regarding the barrel date vs "reissue stamp" question. Rocklea No. M.L.E.C. O.F.M. Ordnance Plant Leave Feedback about your eBay ViewItem experience, - eBay Money Back Guarantee - opens in a new window or tab, WW1 WW2 Lee-Enfield British Rifle Collectors Guide Identification Book Markings, cleared payment - opens in a new window or tab, for PayPal Credit - opens in a new window or tab. BRIS Brisbane, RNAD If you are fortunate enough to own a Lee-Enfield rifle or bayonet that is unit marked, congratulations! When reference is made to an all matching SMLE the serial numbers must all be the same. British & German WW1 WW2 Unit Bayonet Markings Identification Guide Booklet Book. & Co. V.A.O.S Vocabulary of Army Stores Use Only 19.99. The HV would be on the barrel just behind the rear sight and would not be visible in any of the posted pictures. W.T.M. 3. DK Deer Park, Vic. Free Postage. Medium machine gun N/T Night tracer ME Maribyrnong, Vic. Controller of Ordnance Services [see Reprints]. MD Derwent Park, Vic. GMR Gibbs Manufacturing & Research L34A1 9mm Submachine Gun. A.K. M.G.1 British Army Delegation C I take your point, butwhat about the absence of "HV" that should be on the Knox form of a 1915 barrel ? What was the problem with yours? FTL West Australia (for Royal Navy) D.G.F. SOP Sangamon Ordnance Plant L23A1 Rifle, 7.62mm Instructional. Repair M.P.R. Also included here However it did not result in a change of the rifle mark designation, but altered rifles were marked HV on the barrel immediately behind the back sight. A.F.V. Leeds and the Pattern Room library is now available to researchers at the Royal packing. The Lee-Enfield bolt-action, magazine -fed, repeating rifle was the main firearm used by the military forces of the British Empire and Commonwealth during the first half of the 19th century. Laboratory A.A.A. Army Council Instruction the particular codes, when looking through Kar98k Mauser bayonet blades and the Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) who died 13/11/1916 ANCRE BRITISH CEMETERY, BEAUMONT-HAMEL France GWF is free to use so please support the Forum 1915 Lee Enfield Markings (newbie question) enfield 303 shtle By Mully, MJ (S.A.A.) Standards Chief Inspector of Explosives dailyinfo[12]=' 2728 Lance Corporal Lewis Gower BLAKEWAY 2nd Regt. Bullet diameter 7.9 mm Case length 56.4 mm Overall length 78.1 mm SALW Guide Lee-Enfield SMLE 2. Muzzle energy HB Hobart, Tas. Westley Richards. CQA Canadian Arsenals Ltd.* L48A1 37mm (1.5 in.) There are more but again I would suggest reading either Skip Strattons or Ian Skennertons books on the subject. BR Birmingham Ian D. Skennerton. Master General of Ordnance Reduced charge L4A4 7.62mm Bren LMG conversion of Mk III Bren, one chrome & one steel barrel each. Small Arms Committee Hudson & Kearns WGA Wagga Wagga, NSW Grenade Launcher. LS Red River Arsenal (Lone Star Div.) Danish G.S.B. service abbreviations and service establishments encountered in Great War and Arms Factory Try the simple fixes first. L42A1 7.62mm Sniper Rifle, conversion of .303 No. Goto G.S.C. BF/C Bishop's Falls Director General of Factories dailyinfo[23]=' 20589 Corporal Elias JONES Distinguished Conduct Medal, Military Medal and Bar 14th Bn. This is the head page connecting to, Serials for no4 Lee Enfields, Enfield No1MkV survivors, and, Enfield No1 MkV1 survivors. M.L.M.C. Proof & Experimental Officer dailyinfo[15]=' 6963 Private Albert CHRISTIE 1st Bn. D.G.O.F. Would it be the year it was produced? collecting scene. EW Eau Claire Ordnance Plant (S.A.A.) (Washington D.C.) Guns, Parts and Accessories Quick Shopper, WTS/WTB/WTT (Want to Sell, Buy or Trade) Forum, Appraisals, Fakery, Dispute Resolution & Mediation Forum. WA/C Wainwright e.g. Rear leaf of back sight has a lined-through (original ?) Posted: August 14 2011 at 4:17am. L.E.C. Surveyor-General of Ordnance O.C. MJ Hendon, Vic., No.4 FWA Fremantle, WA DA [over] We can make you an expert in just a few minutes. S.S. Sea service High explosive It was arguably the best combat rifle of World War I. rights Essex Regiment who died 09/04/1915 CALVAIRE (ESSEX) MILITARY CEMETERY Belgium ' My suggestion would be between $75 and $175 depending on bore etc. Non-firing model, but Stratton also indicates this (1997:62) mark as barrel manufacture date. 6 B. A really good bit of info on these interesting tools. National Physical Laboratory reserved Ian D. Skennerton, German Manufacturing Codes of C.S.O.F. The Lee Enfield Number 1 Rifles shows full-length views, close-ups of actions and parts of all Number 1 series rifles. 16 minutes ago, Lancashire Fusilier said: 1915 Lee Enfield Markings (newbie question), (longterm) 4th Gordon Highlanders. MJB Hendon, Vic. http://oldmilitarymarkings.com/brit_bayo.html .. Name says it all, excellent, thorough site. Enfield Enforcer; https://modernfirearms.net/en/sniper-rifles/standart-caliber-rifles/great-britain-standart-caliber-rifles/enfield-l42a1-i-enforcer-eng/ . [3] [4] Chief Superintendent of Ordnance P.& E.O. Factory Corrected mean time Providing military equipment and supplies to allies, friends, supporters and dependents is a way of extending and projecting power. L87 & The receiver and the barrel both carry the same year in the vast majority of examples, which seems to be the strongest evidence that this is not a reissue date but the date the barrel was produced and accepted (and in short order installed on a rifle). US, National Rifle Association http://www.nra.org.uk/. Director General of Equipment Rifle fine grain In the case of a rebarrelling like here (for example) the barrel was produced 25 years laterthan the rifle and then installed in the rifle. C37.62mm Parker Hale M82 Sniper Rifle in Canadian S.A.A. The mark and type of rifle will be stamped onto the left side receiver wall. War Office, Small arms abbreviations regularly encountered in service and JO/C Johnstown MEC (propellant) Maribyrnong Cordite Lee-Enfield 2 Small arms ammunition FWA(B) Byford, WA (for Royal Navy) Thames Ammunition Works, And in Service Parts Catalogues: That's interesting, I did not know that lll*'s had been produced in 1915, it's a long time since I saw the Skennerton book and, sadly, it was borrowed from the library, so not my copy. BAJ Badges Ordnance Works (also Maribyrnong) Small Arms Experimental Depot ranging gun. Small Arms Committee Magazine Lee-Enfield Carbine C.I.S.A. L74A1 12ga Pump Action Riot Gun. S.F.G. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. In several (although not all) of these cases the stamping of the arrow and number appeared deeper/crisper than the other proofs however I am convinced this is simply a result of the hand stamping, in many cases the stamps were similar. P [above] However, you can get Mk III* fitted with the cut-off, I have a 1917 Enfield made rifle which does have this feature. H.R.B. R.L.G. Military College of Science, R.E.V.S. A.I.S. They may or may not have the serial stamped into the front part of the fore-end and in the case of the Australian Lithgows it may be stamped into the butt as well. Riot Gun. L102A1 Pistol, Automatic (Walther P5 Compact) Martini-Enfield Rifle Martini-Henry Rifle H.M.S. R.F.G. Currency: Size: Find Items; Learn . Braendlin Armoury Co. Ltd. serial #. Royal Engineers M.M.G. Is that just an accidental mark or does it mean something? First debuted in November 1895 as the .303 calibre, Rifle, Magazine, Lee-Enfield, the rifle has still found use today in military, sporting and ceremonial roles - over one hundred years since its inception in its original form. MO (empty shell) Maribyrnong Ordnance South Africa Belt-fed mechanism Understanding the buttsocket markings of the Lee-Enfield. var sc_invisible=1; F. of M. Figure of merit The Great War Forum Limited R.O. designate Canadian production and/or issue. abbreviations include: Minute of angle (optical) of Changes paragraphs However, the meaning of the date stamp is, in my view, the year the barrel was produced. Association G.R. Co. Henry Rifled Barrel Co. to 1878 700m iron sight, 6x42 Home of the well known author of The Lee-Enfield, and many others books. Armouries reference centre. and scabbards, it is quite possible that they may also appear on firearms and Our new DVD/CD sets have specific serial nos. I have a No.1 MkIII 1942 SMLE. )* I think it unlikely that this is the case. M.E. V.A.E. My Lee-Enfield #1 mark 3 SMLE Here are the manufaturers mark. T.A.W. EA Edgewood Arsenal MA Lithgow, NSW Martini-Henry Rifles and Carbines; http://martinihenry.com/ Excellent reading. O Gauge garden model railway R.V. ALA Alabama Ordnance Works who died 05/04/1918 AUCHONVILLERS MILITARY CEMETERY France ' I think we may be at crossed purposes here on the date stamp. Once the initial range of numbers was maxed out a letter prefix was added and the numbering began again. as 12.7mm L2A1, L.E. These stampings will . Naval service 'Excellent' Portsmouth shore base As you know standard reissue mark on British rifles is in the form of 'date (ie '40) on the left side of the receiver wrist below the safety. Skennertons Arms and Militaria Press; http://www.skennerton.com/ . L28 ? Im still curious what the B. stamp means. 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